Simon Davies breaks into an instant smile when you bring up a certain Robbie Savage.
"He's so infectious," said Simon of his Welsh international team-mate. "He loves to have a laugh and he's great around the dressing room. He brings that to the side. He's a great lad who runs his heart out every week."
Of course, Savage is still the player all Spurs fans love to hate after his part in Justin Edinburgh's sending off in the 1999 Worthington Cup Final.
The theory seems to be that if he's on your side, you love him, if not, you hate him.
Simon, who misses Saturday's clash through suspension, has experienced him from both sides and there is no doubting which he prefers.
"He's one of those players you don't enjoy playing against," added Simon. "He's whole-hearted, can wind you up and is on your back all the time.
"When I'm with him with Wales he's great to have around. He was fantastic against Italy. But when you play against him, I don't know, I suppose you just want to kick him!
"He has more to offer than that but people don't see it. He was at Manchester United as a kid, so he must have something about him."